[bobdu11]

Hum....let's see....


1. Long Center shotgun WTFB with a boon bird and either a Green Machine or a BLue/White Islander trailing

2. Long rigger (L and R) usually Blue/White Sea-witches or Get Reel Shooters, smaller baits go here

3. Short Rigger (L and R) usually a Blue and WHilte Islander/Ballyhoo combo

4. Inside Rigger (I have triple rigged outriggers) usually my Rasta Spreader bars

5. Starboard side short is usually a #8 Planer with a dark colored sea witch/Ballyhoo combo, IF Wahoo in the area I will change out with wire on alot of the rigs.

6. Port side short always, always, always a Cedar Plug pulled right in the prop wash. Probably one of my best lures last year...


That's my starting spread for Tuna, adjust as necessary and as often as necessary....Bob

[Billable]

Hum....let's see....


1.  Long Center shotgun WTFB with a boon bird and either  a Green Machine or a BLue/White Islander trailing

2.  Long rigger (L and R) usually Blue/White Sea-witches or Get Reel Shooters, smaller baits go here

3.  Short Rigger (L and R) usually a Blue and WHilte Islander/Ballyhoo combo

4.  Inside Rigger (I have triple rigged outriggers) usually my Rasta Spreader bars

5.  Starboard side short is usually a #8 Planer with a dark colored sea witch/Ballyhoo combo, IF Wahoo in the area I will change out with wire on alot of the rigs.

6. Port side short always, always, always a Cedar Plug pulled right in the prop wash.  Probably one of my best lures last year...


That's my starting spread for Tuna, adjust as necessary and as often as necessary....Bob

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Agree with Bob. We swap out some of Don's Blue/White MiniBars and have a cedar plug daisy chain that also kills. Conga MiniBars are very good also. The MiniBars work on anything and is our go to later in the season as well for Marlin. Mahi, etc.

There will be another Meet and Greet Clinic on how to make your own Cedar Plug Daisy Clains ala MarlinManiac.
Tight lines.
Dave

[wanderlust3]

Hum....let's see....


1.  Long Center shotgun WTFB with a boon bird and either  a Green Machine or a BLue/White Islander trailing

2.  Long rigger (L and R) usually Blue/White Sea-witches or Get Reel Shooters, smaller baits go here

3.  Short Rigger (L and R) usually a Blue and WHilte Islander/Ballyhoo combo

4.  Inside Rigger (I have triple rigged outriggers) usually my Rasta Spreader bars

5.  Starboard side short is usually a #8 Planer with a dark colored sea witch/Ballyhoo combo, IF Wahoo in the area I will change out with wire on alot of the rigs.

6. Port side short always, always, always a Cedar Plug pulled right in the prop wash.  Probably one of my best lures last year...


That's my starting spread for Tuna, adjust as necessary and as often as necessary....Bob

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Thats the kind of stuff i like to read on here. Good stuff for us youngins

[gradyman]

We run LOTS of spreader bars early in the season. Even as teasers. Last year we had the tuna attack spreader bar teasers and steal the rubber squids several times. We would get 5 or 6 up in the spread at once. That's when you get multiple strikes, which will run the fish count way up. I notice our strikes declining on the bars as the water warms and the fish get more wary. I think maybe smaller sea witches and naked ballyhoo produce better in the late summer and early fall.
Bob, is exactly right however, if you get caught on a wahoo day - look out. If you don't run some wire, you are going to get lasered with either mono or floro. This year, I'm running a wire shock leader on all red and black, all the time- they get the most wahoo attention for us.
Something else - use wind-ons - leadering them up with snap swivels leads to major FUBAR's and very angry captains, who have burned lots of fuel and spent all day looking and finding fish and then see them lost at the back of the boat. Of course that would not be me, would it Randy?

[Mega Bite]

Dont forget the Dredge,They help raise fish everytime.Practice your drop back technique & have several pitch baits ready always.

[peejcj8]

Dont forget the Dredge,They help raise fish everytime.Practice your drop back technique & have several pitch baits ready always.

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MB

about the dredge, you use a trailing bait, or just a tease?

If just a tease, you tie it off or run off a rod?

Basically I never ran one, any info appreciated.

Eric

[skinnys-kid]

Great info from these guys!! Here's my starting spread...

On the Way back down the center, Boone Bird or Bird daisy chain with a green machine or other lure behind it. If no hits may switch it out to a trailing rigged bait.

On the long riggers, Shooters with rigged ballyhoo.

On the short riggers, Mini Bars or Conga Lines(Daisy chains)

On the flats, rigged ballyhoo on one side and cedar plug on the other(either single plug or dasiy chain. Plus a set of squid daisy chain teasers , one on each side of the boat just forward of the flat line baits.

Depending on conditions, may run another short center bait of either a rigged ballyhoo or a bigger lure(TCB or chugger style). Colors that seem to work best for me, Blue/White, green/yellow, Blue/pink, Blue/white.

If we're marking fish and no takers, drop the entire spread back further away from the boat and may be switch out a flat line with a planner or downrigger bait.

Always think of your spread as a school of baitfish fleeing from a predator. With spreader bars and daisy chains in the short position you've got the bulk of the "bait ball" and the outside baits are the "weaker baitfish". Sometimes if you throw a larger lure or horse ballyhoo in the mix, that will act as a predatory fish and trigger a competative hit from the fish your after.

Eric, We run a dredge on Neal's boat while billfishing and he runs it off a downrigger. Cleating it off would work too...lots of drag on one of those depending on size. Get Reel Lure will be introducing a dredge into the product line in a few weeks.

Catch'em up!!

--Don

[EARLYTIMES]

Blue and white witches, blue and white islanders. If you want something different use a white and blue one!

[Marlin Maniac]

Here's my standard spread for meatfish:

Right long: Little pink thing w/ballyhoo (pink/white jet head)

Right short: Green squid spreader bar w/green machine trailer

Right flat: cedar plug daisy chain

Shotgun - white/blue ( ) Ilander with horse ballyhoo or spanish mack

Left flat: red/black sea witch w/ballyhoo (on wire)

Left short: Pink squid spreader bar/green machine trailer

left long: Green/yellow Ilander or sea witch w/ballyhoo

That's where I normally start. I'll change it up almost constantly until a bite starts.; Then I'll try to put out more of what they hit. If you haven't gotten a knockdown in half an hour, it's time to change up. And that may be just adjusting how far back the spread is, changing a single bait to a new color or size, or just repositioning baits, like bringing in the long rigger bait closer to the short rigger spreader bar, or dropping the flatlines further back. Hope this helps. Tight lines and good luck.

[Mega Bite]

I tie my Dredge off to the starbord cleat and run 400 lb black mono to the Drail weight,I dont use any hooks with it but I have a trailing bait on my flat line.Renaulski are the best dredge baits they have a segmented tail and have plenty of flash.They pick up the light around them and reflect what ever part of the spectrum is most prevelent.I buy them seperatly and make my own dredges.It has 18 baits on it.On the port side I run my Meat dredge with 12 real Ballyhoo same set up but my trailing bait is a dink rig or a naked split bill rig.Thr Renalski are hard to get I have driven to Naggs head a few times to get them.I also run a mini yum me flying fish daisy chain off the short rigger,I dangle it so half of them are out of the water this bait usually gets the Whites or yellowfins attention . Your teasers and dredges are the most important part of the spread if you dont tease them up to your spread you can have all the fancy baits in the world but guess what.............SKUNK.

[peejcj8]

I tie my Dredge off to the starbord cleat and run 400 lb black mono to the Drail weight,I dont use any hooks with it but I have a trailing bait on my flat line.Renaulski are the best dredge baits they have a segmented tail and have plenty of flash.They pick up the light around them and reflect what ever part of the spectrum is most prevelent.I buy them seperatly and make my own dredges.It has 18 baits on it.On the port side I run my Meat dredge with 12 real Ballyhoo same set up but my trailing bait is a dink rig or a naked split bill rig.Thr Renalski are hard to get I have driven to Naggs head a few times to get them.I also run a mini yum me flying fish daisy chain off the short rigger,I dangle it so half of them are out of the water this bait usually gets the Whites or yellowfins attention . Your teasers and dredges are the most important part of the spread if you dont tease them up to your spread you can have all the fancy baits in the world but guess what.............SKUNK.

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I noticed alot of charters, run alot of teasers.

[Mega Bite]

Some parts of the world on BlueMarlin Charters they run all Teasers .When a Grander comes up they Dropback a Hooked bait on a #130lb class set up that way you know your outfit can get him to the boat.I use a dredge on my 23 foot Seacraft also its really not in the way its easy to pull in and only about 15 feet behind the boat.My beam is about 93 inches on the Seacraft.

[My Babby Ruth]

First off thanks for all the info
My question is do you have better luck with all the same color or mix it up
We mixed it up but noticed that at the dock any way the charter boats looked like they were running the same color
thanks

[skinnys-kid]

Fish Dad,

You can take a glass rig and zip tie it to your outrigger and run the teaser line thru it...great way to get it out there without interferring with the halyard's movement

Baby Ruth,
I understand the all one color thing, but I like to use a few colors and see what the fish are hitting that day and then change accordingly. Saying that, my spread is usually 3or 4 main color combos, Blue/white, green/yellow, blue/pink and sometimes purple/black.

[fordbjr]

[quote=peejcj8,Jan 23 2007, 12:07 AM][quote=Mega Bite,Jan 22 2007, 09:31 PM]Dont forget the Dredge,They help raise fish everytime.Practice your drop back technique & have several pitch baits ready always.

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MB

about the dredge, you use a trailing bait, or just a tease?

If just a tease, you tie it off or run off a rod?

Basically I never ran one, any info appreciated.

Eric

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I pull the dredge from a downrigger, it's pretty easy doing it that way, strictly as a teaser.

[peejcj8]

I tie my Dredge off to the starbord cleat and run 400 lb black mono to the Drail weight,I dont use any hooks with it but I have a trailing bait on my flat line.Renaulski are the best dredge baits they have a segmented tail and have plenty of flash.They pick up the light around them and reflect what ever part of the spectrum is most prevelent.I buy them seperatly and make my own dredges.It has 18 baits on it.On the port side I run my Meat dredge with 12 real Ballyhoo same set up but my trailing bait is a dink rig or a naked split bill rig.Thr Renalski are hard to get I have driven to Naggs head a few times to get them.I also run a mini yum me flying fish daisy chain off the short rigger,I dangle it so half of them are out of the water this bait usually gets the Whites or yellowfins attention . Your teasers and dredges are the most important part of the spread if you dont tease them up to your spread you can have all the fancy baits in the world but guess what.............SKUNK.

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I cannot google renaulski, even tried different spellings. What is that?