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Ken Neill
I spent ths past week on another scientific expedition with Dr. John Graves. We were back in Venezuela. Some of his previous research had shown a much higher survival rate of released white marlin caught on circle hooks than those caught on J-hooks. This study led us to a regulation which requires us to use non-offset circle hooks while using natural baits during billfish tournaments. Non-offset even though John’s research should all styles of circle hooks were equally effective in reducing release mortality.

There have been some complaints about this regulation. It was designed to help white marlin so why should blue marlin anglers be subjected to it? The main complaint is that it also applies to combination baits. A favorite blue marlin bait is a horse ballyhoo rigged on a large hook with a lure like the Ilander in front of it. This bait is not a bait you are likely to deep-hook a white marlin with. If a circle hook is required, this combo-bait becomes ineffective at hooking blue marlin. Anglers argue that even blue marlin are not likely to be deep-hooked when using these types of rigs.

We were back in Venezuela, armed with 60 satellite pop-off tags, to find out. The idea is to catch blue marlin on these combo rigs and tag them. A control group will be caught on circle hooks and tagged. Helping with this study are the International Game Fish Association and the Marine Conservation Science Institute. Five of us headed out on the Waterman with Capt. Jimmy Grant. John brought along his graduate student Dan who he calls Jethro for some reason. Michael Domeier, President of the MCSI, and Jason Schratwieser, Conservation Director of the IGFA also joined us.

Michael is an old hat with pop-up satellite studies working with striped marlin, black marlin, and sharks. He and John are the experts. Dan had never been offshore before. Jason is a very accomplished angler but he had never caught a marlin nor had he worked with these pop-up tags before. The plan was to get Dan and Jason some tagging experience and then to spread out to other boats for the rest of the trip. Things don’t always work out the way they are planned.

The first day worked out pretty well. Dan’s first ever offshore fish turned out to be a white marlin. He dropped-back and “hooked-up” with a naked ballyhoo rigged with a circle hook. The fish really got down and mean and gave Dan a very hard time. It turned out that the fish was not hooked at all. Somehow, Dan had managed to lasso the fish. John had brought along a couple of re-built tags to use on whites or sails so we could get some practice. Jason tagged this first marlin. This whole trip turned out to be firsts and largest for all of us. Before we could find anymore billfish, large yellowfin tuna showed up. John caught a 150 pound fish which was his largest tuna ever but it would not hold that position for long. Jason was up next. His first marlin ever was what we were after. The blue marlin attacked a blue and white Ilander/ballyhoo combo. Dan placed his first tag. Only 59 more blue marlin to go. We had about 8 sailfish come into our spread but none wanted to eat and fill out our grand slam.

We were off to a good start but we had some problems. One was that the billfish bite was very slow for Venezuela. The other thing that held things up was the boats that we were expecting to go out in either had not arrived yet or they were having problems and could not get out. Instead of spreading out in the fleet, we all stayed on Jimmy’s boat for the whole trip. Jason caught our only blue marlin. We saw a couple others which would not bite. Michael caught his first ever white marlin to go with all of his blacks, blues, and striped marlin he has caught. That was our last billfish of the trip. We caught some nice dolphin but lost the big bull at the boat which was a repeat of our last trip down there. John and Dan were both fighting dolphin (Dan’s first ever) which I were trying to photograph when the bull shows up on a long rigger bait. I dropped the bait back a little and hooked him. I was fighting him with my camera hanging around my neck. John’s fish was gaffed and in the boat and I told him to take my camera or the rod. He took the rod ( I’m going to start calling him Fish Pig). The hook pulled when the mate had the leader. I told John that we would have caught that fish if he had taken the camera.

Billfish were being caught but it was very slow. What was red hot was the tuna bite. In the spirt of making lemonade when you are given lemons, we made the most of it. All of us caught our biggest yellowfins ever and then caught larger ones. These fish were in the 200 pound class. It was crazy. Birds falling out of the sky, tuna leaping into the sky, and porpoise everywhere. Jason is a really neat guy. It turns out we both did our undergraduate work at the same university. He is a Virginia boy who has made it big. He is the Conservation Director of the IGFA. I started calling the carnage director. His blue marlin and these yellowfin were the largest fish he had ever caught. When he was not fighting fish, he took over mate duties. First he wanted to leader these big tuna. OK, just stay in the boat. Next, he’s gaffing everything. Best of all, they like to use a harpoon instead of a flying gaff on these large tuna and sure enough, there was Mr. IGFA back there like Capt. Ahab looking like he has been harpooning all his life. The guy was super fun to fish with. He would fit right in with the crew on the Healthy Grin, I’m looking forward to fishing with him again. Needless to say, we ate a lot of tuna this week. For the scientists, not much success as to tags getting out but the fishing was really good.

59 more blue marlin to catch, I guess we will have to go back, dang-it. We will get some tags out off of the Carolinas. We will get some out on the Healthy Grin. Some time will be spent in the Dominican Republic and with the help of the IGFA and others, we may be holding a special tagging tournament somewhere like Puerto Rico. Basically, it means a lot of marlin fishing. I can handle that. It is for science.



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Andrew K
nice report/write up! thanks for the pics! we always enjoy reading your topics biggrin.gif
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BillyBoy
You lead a tough life there, buddy.
bobdu11
So that's the kind of job you get when you actually go to college and get a degree.....Nice pics.....bob
Tony S
The science project is interesting ........ BUT THE PICTURES ARE UNREAL!
VARugger442
wow, interesting topic of research...great write up

Unbelievable Photography... klap_smiley.gif
Marlin Maniac
Ken, l'd just like to take a moment to thank you for the sacrifices you have made in the name of billfish research. Not many people would be willing to drop everything at work or with the family and take off to the tropics to fish for blue marlin with one of the finest captains on the east coast and the eminent Marine Biologist from VIMS. Your sense of humanity almost brings a tear to my eye. Almost. biggrin.gif I can say one thing for sure, in 20 minutes last year, while speaking at the Bluewater Classic, Dr Graves taught (or untaught) more about billfish than I've learned in 20 years on the water. While he might not have a hot new rig for spanish macks, or a new lure color combination, Dr. Graves knows more about marlin habits than anyone I have ever met. If you want to increase your hookup ratio, listen to the man if you get a chance. Maybe he'll grace us again at the BWC sometime.
G&H Lures
That is simply awesome! I know that your goal was to catch billfish, but I would rather catch big ol slob yellowfins any day!!! Great report. Time to go make the deck red!!!
skinnys-kid
Ken,

Thanks for this report!! Great pics and sounds like a great trip! It was a pleasure to meet Dr. Graves last year at the Bluewater Classic and like George said, everyone learned a lot in that 20 mins. The numbers were staggering between the mortalities of billfish caught on J-hooks and circles. I'm glad he was able to fit us into his busy schedule.

Thanks again Ken!!
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Billable
Ken,
As always great work. Greatly enjoy reading about the tagging adventures. Our best also to Dr. John. Best regards,
Dave
peejcj8
Man those are some pretty fish, Thanks for the pictures Mr neill
skinnys-kid
Even more great shots! I want one of those tuna to hang on my wall!! Thanks again!!
Insecurity
so Ken Neill what university did yall go to? im a junior in high school and my plan right now is to make my passion my life!!! i mean whats better than that? if you can pm me that would be great, so everyone else doesnt have to read the converstation thinking its something exciting. id like to know more about how you got into the profession
Ken Neill
biggrin.gif I'm a dentist. So my being part of these projects has nothing to do with my education. Somewhere along the way, I got a reputation of being a good fish catcher and I have just kept my mouth shut so they do not find out differently. I think Guy Harvey called me "angler extraoridinare" on is TV show. I choked when I heard that one. My job on these projects is just to catch fish. Less glamerous, I'm often asked to collect fish or tag fish for scientists locally: bluefin, dogsharks, grouper, bluefish-whatever. Another person here that does a lot of this is Capt. Steve Wray. I know that he has been a big help for the fisheries scientists.

As for the science, both ODU and William and Mary have good programs. VIMS is part of William and Mary. Dan, the grad student who was on this trip did his undergrad work at Virginia Tech. Dr. Graves was a California boy. He went to the University of California and then to Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Jason, from the IGFA, went to ODU and then finished his garduate work at Florida State.
Wirebender
Hey Ken,
Great pics, sounds like you all had a great trip. A little off topic, but do you work by yourself or in a group? I am an orthodontist down here at the beach and always looking for people to fish with. What kind of boat do you have, I am sure i've seen it down here?
Neal
Ken Neill
I'm in practice with my dad. My boat is the Healthy Grin, an Albemarle that I keep t Inlet Station at Rudee.
Wirebender
I knew I saw it somewhere. Well, great job on your trip and I'll try to introduce myself the next time I'm at inlet station, I have a buddy that keeps his boat there.
fordbjr
QUOTE (Ken Neill @ Mar 24 2008, 02:56 PM) *

Good read and great pics.

Look at the dark spot directly above this fish in the water. Is that another one with it?
Ken Neill
Good spot. That is exactly what it appears to be.
salmonbb
What incredible pictures! Especially the dudes in the small skiff hauling out a big tuna, as well as the big tuna airborne! Wow.
Ken Neill
This is one of the guys that fished with us. He does a lot of work with great whites. I think you need quicktime to watch it:

Great Whites
Cool Change
Ken, Thank you so much for your service as well as sharing your story and pics. That is one hell of a camera you are using. I looked down at my arm just now to see if it had water on it.
Ken Neill
QUOTE (Cool Change @ Apr 4 2008, 12:17 PM) *
That is one hell of a camera you are using.


That is because I have one hell of a wife. She is the photography expert in the family. She bought me the camera I think because she was tired of my borrowing hers.
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