QUOTE (netman9 @ May 28 2009, 05:14 PM)

Thanks Kent. The tide-wind combo is what I havn't nailed down. I look for wind out of W or SW, its the influence of the out going tide timing I need help on. Low tide and time leading into low tide. I've gone out of the inlet running on plane with no swell but didn't know why this was. Possible slack tide low or high? Alot of variables here, sounds like out going against an E wind to be worse case. Being a small boat we don't go out over 1-3 ft seas with any wind staying inside tower C on the good days. Well there was one day in Oct. we hit the point for YFT\MAHI in 1-2' seas with vari 5-10 changing to calm running 28-31 out and wot coming home with buudy boat and 50-70 other boats.
I hope we are answering your question here. I think you can get through there on most any SW/W wind. whether you want to or not - is a another matter. I came through on about 35/40 knots SW a couple of times last year -coming home. It was not near that bad offshore - but in the summer and it's hot- coming back home esp.- there is a shore breeze -always SW- that can really get cranking -it is spooky - as the inlet is just dancing all over and streaked-up - but its just little wavelets.
Anything on the other side of the compass perks up your ears. I have heard of a big running swell with NO wind - like you descibed - but have not seen it.
The bar is the place you have to watch. About 5 waves of it. Coming back in - ride the back of one and stay the hell on the back -no matter what it takes to do it. Do not surf down the front of one and do not let the one behind you catch you. People lose their wave - after it slips out from under them and think "I'll get on the back of the next one". Next thing- it breaks right over the transom into the back of boat and that is all she wrote. Once you are in there- in the surf zone- where they are breaking - there is whole lot of rushing white water- like a class 5 rapids. The boat can start yawing all over the place- but it feels worse than it is -it is easier to control it here- if you just pour the juice to it and come on in hard and get the hell out of it.
Then you get the same feeling Churchill had - when he said "there is nothing more exhilerating than being shot at - and missed".
KAPOC is absolutely right there can be a condition there- that is so steep that no small boat can handle it. Twice I have seen wreckage - T-tops and windshields in the channel - that just been taken off small boats ahead of me. E NE SE - expect there can be an issue- check the tide the day before. You can almost always get through it and once you are to the other side of the bar it'll layout for you.
Hatteras - is exact opposite. SW can be a real beast down there on outgoing tides. All that sound trying to get through that narrow hole on both of the inlets - just stands it right up. Hatteras can take one a hell of a NE wind and still be flat. Keep it in your mind as - KAPOC correctly points out - running back up the sound it very easy.
The bar on Hatteras is deeper and personally - I don't think it is quite as tough as OI can get -but for sure - do not take it lightly - I have had some pretty shakey moments down there for- too.
IF you fish down there enough -you realize dealing with it-is just a way of life down there.
Kent