Yankee Rowboat
Apr 9 2007, 09:11 PM
I'am kinda new to offshore fishing and have run a speader bar of various size's and color before. The last time out I attached a hook bait behind the spreader bar for the first time ( small blue and white squid with a white or pink med squid hook bait). We had 9 hook ups with 7 on the speader bar. Two other's slammed the spreader bar but didn't hook up. Is this a normal pattern or was this just one of those day. My spead was a medium bird with a Green machine way back, long riggers had sea witches with ho's, short riggers varied between sea witches with ho's and tuna feathers. I also ran squid chains with cedar plug and tuna feather thru out the day. We put 2 40lb. YFT, and 5 little tunny in the boat of the speader bar. The green machine was responsible for a 20lb. Wahoo and daisy chain with tuna feather had 1 little tunny.
Jake
skinnys-kid
Apr 10 2007, 04:52 AM
That can happen with spreader bars. I've had fish go right threw one of the teaser strands and no where near the hook as if the were busting up the bait ball. When I make mine I try to have the teaser baits closer together, say 4-6 inches apart, to make a tight appearence. then the hooked bait is set back about 2.5-3 feet behind the pack, hoping to draw the fish to the "weaker" bait. That's the theory, but sometimes the fish still goes for the other baits.
If you get hit and it doesn't come tight, either jig on the spreader bar or dropp it back in the for a moment...it may trigger another hit on the hooked bait.
Your spread sounds good. I run my spreader bars in the middle of the spread in the short positions and then single baits around it in the long riggers and the flat lines or long flats. You may get more hits on those single baits as they look like the weak bait fish, but don't take the spreader bars out just yet. They are doing their job of raising fish.
Catch 'em Up!
--Don
Billable
Apr 10 2007, 05:55 AM
QUOTE (skinnys-kid @ Apr 10 2007, 04:52 AM)
That can happen with spreader bars. I've had fish go right threw one of the teaser strands and no where near the hook as if the were busting up the bait ball. When I make mine I try to have the teaser baits closer together, say 4-6 inches apart, to make a tight appearence. then the hooked bait is set back about 2.5-3 feet behind the pack, hoping to draw the fish to the "weaker" bait. That's the theory, but sometimes the fish still goes for the other baits.
If you get hit and it doesn't come tight, either jig on the spreader bar or dropp it back in the for a moment...it may trigger another hit on the hooked bait.
Your spread sounds good. I run my spreader bars in the middle of the spread in the short positions and then single baits around it in the long riggers and the flat lines or long flats. You may get more hits on those single baits as they look like the weak bait fish, but don't take the spreader bars out just yet. They are doing their job of raising fish.
Catch 'em Up!
--Don
Also, don't forget if they are crashing the bars there are other fish there as well! Work everything you have out to get the bite. Have pitch baits ready as well. Good luck.
Dave
FelixtheKat
Apr 10 2007, 05:33 PM
I swear by the Get Reel mini spreader bars, esp in blue and white, they produce time after time. Would not want to go offshore without at least 2 sets.
Marlin Maniac
Apr 11 2007, 06:24 AM
I usually fish the spreader bars on the short riggers llike Don does, positioning the other baits around them. I've had the back corner baits ated right off the bar before too. One thing you may want to consider is upsizing the trailing bait on the bar. If you're trailing a green machine or a larger bait, you'll catch less of the smaller bonita/little tunny and hopefully more of the bigger yellowfin. Hope this helps.
Yankee Rowboat
Apr 12 2007, 07:57 AM
QUOTE (Marlin Maniac @ Apr 11 2007, 06:24 AM)
I usually fish the spreader bars on the short riggers llike Don does, positioning the other baits around them. I've had the back corner baits eated right off the bar before too. One thing you may want to consider is upsizing the trailing bait on the bar. If you're trailing a green machine or a larger bait, you'll catch less of the smaller bonita/little tunny and hopefully more of the bigger yellowfin. Hope this helps.
Thanks guys for the advice. I have a meeting with Don tonite to look at his mini-bars.
Jake
Mega Bite
Apr 12 2007, 03:22 PM
Eated....Im going to have to use Eated And Thunk in the same sentence the next time my wife makes me go fine dining.I might even throw in a " Got Ate"
bobdu11
Apr 12 2007, 03:26 PM
QUOTE (Mega Bite @ Apr 12 2007, 03:22 PM)
Eated....Im going to have to use Eated And Thunk in the same sentence the next time my wife makes me go fine dining.I might even throw in a " Got Ate"
hahaha...that's funny right there !
skinnys-kid
Apr 12 2007, 03:30 PM
The proper adjective is "Chown"...the past tense of chew...as in, "I replaced that there ballyhoo cause it was all chown"!!!
cformolo
Apr 12 2007, 04:06 PM
Are spreader bars normally pulled behind the boat from a rod? Just seems like a lot of equipment between your rod tip and hooked fish.
Thanks,
Cal
skinnys-kid
Apr 12 2007, 04:19 PM
Cal,
They are. The bigger bars...36" with big squids or green machines...naturally have more drag and are usually run right off the rod tip or very sturdy outriggers. The new thing in bars are 9" to 20" bars with bulb squid or Chugger style lures. I put cigar floats inside each bulb squid for floatation. These smaller, lighter bars can easily be run out of the outrigger clips.
It can be a lot of stuff between you and the fish, but when you have a fish on one, you're not too worried about it

. The center leader of the bar that is attached to the hooked bait and the fishing line, is usually no longer than a standard leader for a single bait rig. They are great producers for sure.
Marlin Maniac
Apr 12 2007, 04:34 PM
Hey, I went to Norview so what do you expect? Eated of course should have been eaten. However I very humbly changed the word to the regionally correct past participle of the verb "eat" which would be "ated". Remember, we are south of the Mason/Dixon line!
Mega Bite
Apr 12 2007, 07:17 PM
Marlin I can understand just about any Southern vernacular,The Tug boat Captains on the Lower Mississippi are the hardest.Cajun is hard to decypher on a SSB or VHF.
FelixtheKat
Apr 13 2007, 11:41 AM
Some baits jess warsh aut!!!
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